A Radiant Botanist’s Primer: Lesson one, on the weeds and the flowers

From the NY Times which I see today has an article on megachurches (a subject I brought up in Friday’s post).

When you ask people how Radiant has changed their lives, they will almost invariably talk about how it helped open their hearts. But there’s a kind of narrowing going on here as well, which became clear a few minutes later, when Tom flipped to another passage from a recent sermon. ” ‘Some seed fell among the thorny weeds, and the weeds grew up with them and choked the good plants,’ ” he read, quoting Luke 8:7. Then he added his exegesis: ”We’ve had friends who were not Christian, and for me they were like the thorny weeds,” he said. ”We’ve had to commit ourselves to friends who could help us grow spiritually.”

The following night I heard this same message, communicated more explicitly, at Radiant’s youth service. ”If I asked how many of you have close friends who are unbelievers, a lot of you would probably raise your hands,” the pastor told the crowd of about 150 teenagers, most of whom looked dressed for a rock concert. ”I’ll tell you right now, if one of you is a believer and the other is not, your relationship is doomed.”

Radiant is a megachurch in Maricopa County AZ. It has a weekly attendance of 5000. They were expecting 15,000 for Easter weekend services. It is the core gathering place for the “exurbs” in that area who purchase the new middle class homes for $175,000 without the amenities of community planning, parks, local government. As the article states, the church, Radiant, has taken the place of local govt in providing certain amenities. The cost? The tithe. 10 percent of your income. The church is like a mall with Starbucks and a drive-thru Latte window. They are conservative. When the GOP asked for church directories they handed them over and had church voter registration drives, in church, making sure to point out in sermons that they were non-partisan.

One of the more striking facts to emerge from the 2004 presidential election was that 97 of America’s 100 fastest-growing counties voted Republican. Most of these counties are made up of heretofore unknown towns too far from major metropolitan areas to be considered suburbs…These exurban cities tend not to have immediately recognizable town squares, but many have some kind of big, new structure where newcomers go to discuss their lives and problems and hopes: the megachurch…In sprawling, decentralized exurbs like Surprise, where housing developments rarely include porches, parks, stoops or any of the other features that have historically brought neighbors together, megachurches provide a locus for community. In many places, they operate almost like surrogate governments, offering residents day care, athletic facilities, counseling, even schools.

One can go look at Radiant at the link above, but don’t get too attached to the photo of the building as it being what Radiant looks like. Because Radiant is building a new church, all 55,000 square feet of it, to look like a ski lodge.

They play down that they’re Assemblies of God. The article states you often don’t learn this until you’re preparing to join.

They don’t believe in evolution.

Homosexuality and abortion are considered sins.

The church was built on canvassing which learned most people wanted a place to go to without dressing up. The majority of young middle class families with children are conservative. Radiant is a monster of a fast growing church. It didn’t exist 9 years ago. Some elders felt the area was about to take off and they called in Lee McFarland, who had just left his job with Microsoft in Washington State to take up the ministry. They felt they needed young blood. Lee put on chinos and went around canvassing, door to door. No one wanted him. He put on jeans and presenting himself then as a secular canvasser he went out asking what music people liked and why they didn’t go to church. And built the church according to the responses he received.

What’s interesting about this is, and I could very well be wrong about it, but how much do the current ammenities of socializing with a certain group of people play in the moulding and remoulding of one’s beliefs, over the idea that people, based on beliefs, seek out individuals and groups with which they’ll feel at home?

Ask people at Radiant what first brought them to the church, and you will almost never hear a mention of God. It might have been a billboard: ”Isn’t It Time You Laughed Again?” Or the twice-a-week aerobics class (with free child care) called Firm Believers. Or one of their children might have come with a friend to play video games. ..McFarland’s messages are light on liturgy and heavy on what he calls ”successful principles for living” — how to discipline your children, how to reach your professional goals, how to invest your money, how to reduce your debt, even how to shake a porn addiction. ”If Oprah and Dr. Phil are doing it, why shouldn’t we?” he says.

But never mind all that. Never mind what they believe. Never mind what has brought them together. How they live. What I’m interested in is this, repeating again a passage already quote d from the article,

‘’If I asked how many of you have close friends who are unbelievers, a lot of you would probably raise your hands,’’ the pastor told the crowd of about 150 teenagers, most of whom looked dressed for a rock concert. ‘’I’ll tell you right now, if one of you is a believer and the other is not, your relationship is doomed.’’

The non-believers are thorny weeds to be broken away from. They are the weeds that choke the good plants.

Apparently most don’t stray too far from the hand that raised them. The success in voter registration drives at these churches is credited to many of these people coming up during the Reagan years.

These are people that the Republican Party has always run well with — it’s conventional wisdom among political analysts that young, middle-class couples raising children tend to be conservative — and in 2004 the G.O.P. made a strong play for exurbanites. Megachurches were a key part of the strategy. Supporters were asked to supply the Bush-Cheney campaign with church directories so it could make sure these churchgoers were registered and planning to vote. ”For the first time we didn’t just engage businesspeople or Second Amendment supporters; we engaged people who said they were motivated first and foremost by their values, and these people were often churchgoers,” Gary Marx, a liaison to social conservatives for the campaign, told me recently. ”We asked them to reach out to their community, and their community is the megachurch.”

Marx also went directly to megachurch pastors, not for endorsements, he says, but to encourage them to help get out the vote. More often than not, he was well received. ”An old-line pastor who went to seminary in the 60’s is not going to be open to something like Citizenship Sundays when you pass out registration cards to everyone at the church,” Marx said. ”But many of the pastors of these megachurches are in their late 30’s, early 40’s. They were teenagers during the Reagan years, and that’s when conservatism and engagement by evangelicals began to become mainstream. So they would be more willing to do voter drives and things like that, more tuned into citizenship and engaging the community beyond soup kitchens.”

I doubt in Surprise there’s much call for soup kitchens, not so far from urban centers. Where you have people who can afford to separate themselves off in this manner, areas where a broad mix of income isn’t likely to happen, they’re not only exempt from dealing with the dynamics of urban centers but even the dynamics of typical smaller towns where not everyone is cut from the same cloth.

Out in the exurbs, you don’t have to work to learn to live with and get along with thorny weeds. They are not part of your community socially or economically. They and their concerns can easily be shed.

I read an article a Minnesota megachurch, Wooddale.

We skip the nosh and buzz past a number of small meeting rooms labeled with today’s discussion topics (9:00: “Making Sense of Creation and Evolution,” 10:15: “Handling Difficult Situations”). A banner hanging outside one room announces “Classes at Disciple U.” This is not simply a church, it’s a religious campus—a fusion of theology, education and business.

Crossroads Church hosts 5000 members. A “vast majority” voted for Bush. The pastor says that abortion and value-of-life issues are the #1 reason they voted for Bush, taking precedence over the war and economy. Indeed, he compares abortion to terrorism.

“Suppose you ask some candidate for office if it should be OK to allow terrorists into our country, and he tells you he’s all for it. At that point, the other issues on your plate wouldn’t much matter. Well, for us, the value-of-life issue is that critical.”

The area in which Crossroads church is located, in Vancouver, Washington, is home to three megachurches. It is believed that most are Bush supporters.

And now that the elections are over with and Bush is set for another four years, they’ve had some thinking to do on the heat, the divisiveness.

Pastor Ritchie is tired of divisiveness.

Now, “I’m tired of divisiveness” would make many think, “Oh, a willingness to try to communicate.” And that’s what it might mean coming from the mouths of people who treated other people like people and believed in working toward a tolerable living agreement according rights to those of differeing opinions.

“I’m tired of the divisiveness,” Pastor Ritchie says. “There was a letter to the editor… just the other day from a lady who said Bush is delusional if he thinks God had anything to do with him being president.

“In that case, what is she saying about the Bible and being led by God to do anything? What is she saying about people’s faith? That kind of arrogance does not win friends and influence people.”

There’s nothing the woman could likely have said that would have influenced Pastor Ritchie. Nothing she could have said that would win her his friendship other than, “I want to be a member of your church.”

Being tired of the divisiveness here means only it’s high time for the weeds to shut up.

Despite the euphoric conviviality and the tremendous and successful social outreach of these churches, these are not people who are interested in getting along. They don’t believe in dialogue. Their numbers have increased significantly, and what they’re telling their children is this, “If I asked how many of you have close friends who are unbelievers, a lot of you would probably raise your hands…I’ll tell you right now, if one of you is a believer and the other is not, your relationship is doomed.”

I feel for those kids living in a world full of expendable weeds which they must root from their gardens.

(Man, I hate this. It is so depressing.)


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5 responses to “A Radiant Botanist’s Primer: Lesson one, on the weeds and the flowers”

  1. Jim McCulloch Avatar

    If we step back and look at the context of the Radiant problem, we see Surprise, Arizona, which, from just the look of the concertina wire roll of barbed wire under the “isn’t it time you laughed again” billboard, we can deduce a considerable likelihood of success for any institutional anodyne to the fundamental depressive quality of a ghastly place and hideous lifeways, seen in the NYT tidbits that you have to wait 2 hours to eat in a goddamn appelby’s (which is evidently the posh place to eat out) or the description of an economy based on and endless strip of Targets and Walmarts and Wendys and Home depots, all parked in the Sonora desert and which will return to the Sonora desert before the Rapture floats them away, alas.
    So from Radiant’s POV the $16,000 annual Krispy Kreme budget is well spent.
    I still have some faith, maybe more irrational than that of the rapturalists, that these people, who are in fact being screwed, may someday awake to that obvious fact, and hopefully to the equally obvious fact as to who it is that is screwing them. But maybe the cold light of reason tells us that a greasy free doughnut, paid for out of their tithes, will keep them homophobic and republican.

  2. Blue Avatar
    Blue

    I know where this is .. there r thousands? well maybe hundreds i’ve not stopped to count them yet) of lookalike homes just north of there i thot might b connected but not sure since Bell Rd. is very close to pheonix and the church is on that rd. Went to your link and at their site it says..

    ‘Radiant Church is committed to offering Real Help for Real People and Compassions Ministries plays a crucial role. We offer love, comfort, compassion, counseling and prayer for those in serious need.’

    Wondering who the Real people r and would the weeds qualify? Not real sure of definitions here and possible exceptions but i think from what i’ve read and as close as i can tell i must b a Real Weed. Surely God loves the weeds tho.. why else would he have created them and given them their Real name .. Wildflower?

  3. jay taber Avatar

    Pleasantville

  4. Gina: attendee of Radiant Avatar
    Gina: attendee of Radiant

    You have Radiant all wrong. I bet not one of those who have commented even tried to attend a service there. The community isn’t judgemental or criticizing like this blog is. All the doughnuts, coffee and other fun things that are available at the church is merely BAIT for new believers. (To catch fish you have to use bait right?) Jesus was a fisherman searching for people to come to Him and to be loved and saved. Radiant is trying to reach out to non-believers.

    Yes weeds are created by God and yes they can be beautiful. But yet a weed that puts down other’s believes and passions is not something you want to keep around right? But that’s not the point of the quote you stated that is so misinterpretted. RELATIONSHIPS ARE ABOUT COMPROMISE. If one side isn’t willing to do that then yes the relationship is “doomed.” Why keep trying to mend a relationship where there is no compromising?

    The church teaches us to be more like Christ: loving, patient, caring, for justice and what is right, to be a minister, counselor. If you see someone who is going down the wrong path, wouldn’t you want to HELP THEM? or are you a person to root them on and say “hey! it’s not my life.” Pr. Lee has always said to love the sinner. That includes gays, prostitutes, theives, etc. Everyone that attends Radiant is a sinner. Noone is perfect. The only perfect person that lived on this earth is Jesus Christ. Radiant doesn’t shun the sinner, it welcomes them with open arms.

  5. Idyllopus Avatar

    I read the pastor telling kids, who have friends who aren’t believers, ” ‘I’ll tell you right now, if one of you is a believer and the other is not, your relationship is doomed.’’

    You say that this quote is being misinterpreted by me, that relationships are about compromise, and if one side isn’t’ willing to do that then the relationship is doomed.

    I’m curious what *is* your definition of compromise with those of us who are non-believers, who do not think we are in need of being saved?

    My idea of compromise is not for me to be coerced to go to your church, y’know, just to “see what it’s like” because you’re positive that once I get there and have the donuts and coffee I’ll see the error in my ways and come over to your side…and if I don’t, then after three strikes I’m out because I haven’t sufficiently compromised and overthrown my belief system for yours.

    The truth is that you think I’m being critical because I am. I’m criticizing the literalist belief that those who don’t believe as a literalist believes is a non-believing weed in need of becoming a literalist.

    Difficult as it may be for you to accept, there are people out here who do not believe in your Christ and who do not believe that they are sinners because of this. I repeat, they absolutely do not believe they are sinners because of it.

    I’m one of those people.

    There’s no evidence whatsoever Jesus Christ existed. The notion of your Jesus Christ is based on gnostic teaching that had been around for many many years, that the literalists codified and used politically to make everyone be like them, because they had to be or else they were deserving of being dead, and proceeded to kill lots and lots of non-believers over the years. You could be a very friendly non-believer out there doing all kinds of good things and loving your fellow human with open arms, giving them food and drink for no other reason than a nice friendly idea of sharing, and you would still end up shit on a stick because good works didn’t cut it and you needed to see the error of your ways under the heart-warming duress of rotisserie torture…and do not pass Go, proceed straight to heaven or hell (depending on your dying confession) from the burning pole. Or noose. Or whatever was deemed meet and right and so to do in best assisting salvation’s cause.

    You can argue against this all you want, but I will have donuts and coffee at home, thank you. It’s no great hardship for me to grind my own beans and skip down to the store for a box of lard and sugar.

    P.S. I don’t think you’re going to hell for being a Believer. In comparison to what you believe, I think that’s being very accommodating of me.

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